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Why did you choose ¾«¶«AV?

Campbell:
I chose ¾«¶«AV because my brother played lacrosse at Trinity and I knew I wanted to go to a NESCAC school. I also wanted a school near the water with strong science programs. Meeting Coach [Lisa] Vogeley during recruiting was pivotalā€”she was such a spitfire and so full of Camel pride. As a neuroscience major with a psychology minor, I found everything I was looking for: great academics, athletics, location, small-school feel and an up-and-coming program.

Charlie:
Soccer has always been an important part of my life. My father is from the U.K. and has been a huge supporter. I was initially considering DI schools, but ultimately decided I wanted the DIII experience with an intense fall season and the flexibility to study abroad during the off-season. [Charlie is spending the upcoming spring semester in Madrid]. The NESCACā€™s academic reputation was also appealing. After an overnight visit where I stayed with a player from Rye near my hometown, I committed within days.

What are some of the advantages of being at a small liberal arts college?

Campbell:
The College offers everything I wanted. Iā€™m a neuroscience major and psychology minor. Small class sizes are a major strength. The largest class Iā€™ve had was 60 students and I still had a really good relationship with my professor. Iā€™ve built strong relationships with professors. The ā€™s tutoring support has been invaluable. I had the same tutor, David, for two years. He helped me so much, particularly with organic chemistry.

Charlie:
I didnā€™t know what I wanted to do when I first got here, which made ¾«¶«AVā€™s approach appealing since you donā€™t declare your major until sophomore spring. I started with film classes freshman year and now Iā€™m an international relations major, economics minor and finance minor, which is vastly different. And the professors are amazing. They keep up to date with our playing schedule and wish me luck on game days.

What has it meant to you to be part of a team at ¾«¶«AV?

Campbell:
Weā€™re all just best friends. During games, I always feel the weight lifted off my shoulders because theyā€™re right there. Current and former teammates have taught me some of the most important lessons on and off the field. Itā€™s also the little things that are so importantā€”going to Harris for dinner, car rides for coffee, someone cheering you on in the weight room. And these are lifelong bonds. Iā€™m still really close to teammates who have graduated.

Charlie:
My best friends are on the team. You learn so much about each other playing on a team together which also translates off the field. Having teammates in economics has also provided built-in academic support.

Youā€™re both members of SAAC (the NCAAā€™s Student-Athlete Advisory Committee that represents their teams to the athletic administration and provides a voice for the student-athlete body). Can you talk a bit about that experience?

Charlie:
I joined SAAC about 18 months ago and am the treasurer this year. The organization transformed when Kaylyn [Smith, associate director of athletics] became the advisor. She restructured the group and created an exec board and organized the group into committees. Weā€™re advocating for all student-athletes to strengthen team bonds and put events together. I worked with the AOCC (Athletes of Color Coalition) treasurer to negotiate a budget increase.

Campbell:
I joined SAAC two years ago and am vice president now. With the budget that Charlie mentioned, we were able to host a dodgeball tournament that raised $1,100 for , a mental health organization, during Mental Health Awareness Month. The event drew 200 participants across all sports, which was great. Weā€™ve made massive strides since Iā€™ve been on the board. We want to make things happen for student-athletes, and we want to make things happen on campus.

Would you talk about some of the other organizations youā€™re involved with?

Campbell:
Iā€™m really involved with Caring Camels, a group started on campus by a former Womenā€™s Lacrosse teammate. About 80 ¾«¶«AV students visit the Transition Academy in Groton weekly to work with students who have mental and physical disabilities. The program hosts events throughout the year, including a field day on campus where our entire lacrosse team participates. Last spring, we organized a graduation banquet in Cro for graduating TA students with signs, party favors and speeches. It was great.

Charlie:
For two years, our team partnered with Landon, a child with type 1 diabetes, through Landon sat on the bench, joined team huddles and participated in activities like bowling and mini golf with his family. Team Impact even flew Landon and his mother to Vegas for the Final Four. It was amazing to watch him go from shy to comfortable around us. Along with the other co-captains, weā€™ve organized community service events including painting the food pantry, participating in the Walk for Homelessness and visiting elementary schools. Even though itā€™s not mandatory, participation is expected and well-attended because we do it togetherā€”youā€™re hanging out with the team while giving back.

Charlie, would you talk about being a team captain as a junior? That seems like a real honor.

Charlie:
Being named captain as a junior is unusual but I think it was necessaryā€”the team graduated a large senior class of (12ā€“13) players and we brought in 14 freshmen. I see my role as helping to instill the teamā€™s values and emphasizing priorities. But I don't want to make it seem like only the captains are the authority. Everyone is welcome to voice an opinion. Thatā€™s something that I wanted to do as a captain.

Campbell:
I agree. Everyone on the team has a voice, especially on the field. A freshman could contribute equally. I see them as leaders and also mentors.

What are you thinking about for the future?

Campbell:
I interned at Boston Universityā€™s Center for Psychiatric Rehabilitation this past summer, working with clients using DBT [Dialectical Behavior Therapy] skills in a holistic, classroom-based recovery program. Iā€™m planning to go to grad school next fall and am working on applications now.

Charlie:
I interned at a private credit finance firm near my hometown this past summer which was really interesting. Iā€™m thinking about a number of different directions. I have to say that the alumni network here has been really helpful. A number of alums have encouraged me to ask any questions I might have and stay in contact. At a bigger school, I donā€™t think that would happen because they would be flooded with requests. They are phenomenal.

Youā€™ve seen firsthand how the Collegeā€™s investment in athletics has changed the soccer program. What difference has it made?

Andrew:
The investment in the athletics program has allowed for varsity sports to hire full-time assistants for almost all of our teams. This is so important because when coaches have to juggle other jobs, itā€™s really hard to excel at what you do. Having full-time assistants means we can truly be there for our players every day. As a head coach, you have so much else going on and youā€™re thinking from such a higher point of view. Having full-time assistants who can touch base with each player, each day at practice and be available to our student-athletes is critical to a teamā€™s success. When you couple that with the ability to cover the entire nation for recruitment, it is incredible.

How has that support affected your ability to recruit student-athletes?

Andrew:
Itā€™s no secret that tons of student-athletes want to play in the ā€”they want to combine playing at the highest level alongside getting a great education. We want to make sure that we recruit players who will do well in our program. Because Reuben [Burk, head coach] and I are able to travel together to major showcases with 70+ teams, we can double our effectiveness. We maintain a multiyear recruiting calendar tracking every event and successful area weā€™ve covered from coast to coast. The investment allows us to pre-plan detailed manifests of high-interest players and event schedules, so once weā€™re there, at that point it runs like clockwork. By dayā€™s end, weā€™ve collected information on players and can compare notes to prepare for the next day. This has transformed our program.

Would you share a bit about your coaching philosophy?

Andrew:
I take getting to know each player individually very seriouslyā€”what motivates them, what makes them tick, what really drives them. I try to focus on the complete person before the player, emphasizing individual relationships as the foundation for team success. If we want to get the absolute maximum out of players, it's going to be in an environment that is very deliberate about pushing them. You have to build that bond and trust where players can hear feedback about what they are doing well and where they need to improve. We also have biweekly academic check-ins with each playerā€”reviewing schedules, grades and upcoming assignments to help them balance the demands of being a student-athlete.

I think something that's been central to the teamā€™s success is a ā€œnever too high, never too lowā€ mentality that keeps players grounded in the present moment. This helps players focus on daily excellence. Can we be the best version of ourselves today? And then if we can, weā€™ll put ourselves in a really good position each season. One particular result doesnā€™t affect what we do the next day. The result essentially is the byproduct of what we did the days prior. And now the next game or practice is the focus. Thereā€™s never a point where we get ahead of ourselves because weā€™re excited about a win or where we get really low if itā€™s a bad result. Itā€™s about practicing, preparing, playing, reflecting and then repeating it.

What do you find personally gratifying about coaching at ¾«¶«AV?

Andrew:
There is something special about seeing someone go from a junior in high school, meeting their parents, getting to know them, seeing them come through the program, be successful, get these great internships, find the next step in their lives and then watching them walk across the stage at graduation. Thereā€™s no better feeling than looking back and thinking, ā€œI remember the very first time meeting you. Now look at you.ā€